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Which would you choose if you didnt want to. A spinnaker pole with a declared length not longer than 11 J can be used as a whisker pole to trim.
Pole would be appr.
Whisker pole vs spinnaker pole. Any pole used in trimming a spinnaker is a spinnaker pole and it is rated as such with its overall length declared as SPL. A whisker pole is a pole used to wing out headsails only and its length is limited to not more than 11 J. A spinnaker pole with a declared length not longer than 11 J can be used as a whisker pole to trim.
Spinnaker poles are fixed length usually based on the boats J measurement and have identical fittings at each end. Whisker poles - used to pole out a jib or genoa downwind - usually have one car fitting and may have just a pin at the other end or a similar fitting as well. It is also typically the J measurement base of mast to forestay at deck.
You would use one to fly a spinnaker. Whisker pole is to pole out the clew of a headsail when you are sailing deep downwind. It does not face the same compression or lifting forces a.
A spinnaker pole is typically of heavy construction not necessarily of heavy weight and is virtually always a fixed length. It is therefore quite strong. A whisker pole is often both lighter construction and extendible.
Therefore it is less robust. A whisker pole and a spinnaker pole are fundamentally different. If you are flying a spinnaker you want a spinnaker pole.
If you want to pole out a jib use a whisker pole. Whisker poles are smaller in diameter and lighter than spinnaker poles. You can have a whisker pole.
But the previous owner told me to just put them away and use the asymmetrical spinnaker instead. He said it was almost as good as the orig. Spinnaker but didnt involve the poles.
He says the poles are dangerous and difficult to use. He suggested that if I could trade a spinnaker pole for a whisker pole it woud be good trade. A spinnaker pole without stating the obvious is designed for mast attachment one end and supporting the windward clew of a spinnaker via the guy which passes through the end beak.
A whisker pole is designed to attach to the side of the mast base or deck attachment to pole out the guy when on a reach to minimise chaffe on stanchion posts etc. Haro This is definitely a Spinnaker Pole However it is not a Spinn. Pole for a Catalina 36.
It is for a much smaller Boat. A Catalina 36 Spinn. Pole would be appr.
172 inches 1433 feet. It probably wont work very well as a Whisker Pole since it is so short. CARBON SPINNAKER POLES Weight comparison aluminium and carbon spinnaker poles equal strength Aluminium spinnaker pole Section 9999 length 5150 mm weight 169 kg.
Carbon spinnaker pole Section 102102 length 5150 mm weight 9 kg. Whisker poles let you pole out your jib or genoa to weather on the opposite side from the main when broad reaching or running downwind. The sail sets well instead of flopping limp and useless extending out away from the mainsails wind shadow maximizing its projected area and providing a substantial boost in speed with little trimming required.
Your J dimension the distance between the front of the mast and the attachment point of the headstay. SOME one design fleets allow longer whisker poles and PHRF will allow a longer whisker spinnaker pole with a handicap penalty in LMPHRF it is 3 seconds mile for each 3 or less that the pole exceeds J but your max whisker pole. A standard spinnaker pole is as long as the J measurement on your boat that is the distance from the base of the mast to the forestay chainplate.
This is purely a racing rule requirement. Longer poles are penalized under PHRF rules. If youre cruising your whisker pole can be.
Most of my experience is with a Spinnaker and Spinnaker pole. Weve been using a Whisker Pole for a couple years so Im sure there are others whom are better qualified to answer this question. This is simply how we are doing it Our last boat came with a Whisker Pole without support lines that would commonly be used with a Spinnaker Pole.
So I used the pole as set up by the previous owner. The whisker pole spinnaker pole for a 40 boat is right at or over 2K. The assym is about the same price.
The pole will provide WoW configuration for DDW. The assym will provide quite a bit more on various points of sail. Which would you choose if you didnt want to.
Some of the confusion arises from the fact that in practice a spinnaker pole can also be used as a whisker pole defined in the ERS as A spar attached to the mast spar and connected to a headsail clew. The spinnaker pole is already rated but if it is also to be used as a whisker pole it must now be separately declared. Since the load on a spinnaker pole is very light on this point of sailing sometimes a special light spinnaker pole called a whisker pole is used in these circumstances The spinnaker pole is rigged to run from the base of the mast where there is a special fitting for attaching one end of the pole out to windward over the side of the boat.
The most obvious difference is that whisker poles are used for genoas and jibs while a spinnaker pole is used for a spinnaker. There are other differences as well. Whisker poles are sized to match the size of the foot of the sail that they are working while spinnaker poles are sized to match the distance from the mast to the bow also known as the boats J dimension.
The spinnaker pole contents with a lot or torque. Remember it is attached the windward clew or tack if thats easier to visualize and is the only hard connection to the boat besides the halyard where as the whisker pole is attached to the clew of your genoajib a sail that is attached full length to the forestay for the sole purpose. Whisker pole Roger I have mostly used a spinnaker pole as the whisker pole.
The length was equal to the J measurement. If you are going to store it on deck or lashed to the lifelines length is not really a problem. On my friends Tartan 28 the spin pole is no problem to handle by one person.
Forespar Jibing with a Spinnaker Pole - YouTube. Rule 1005 covers Restrictions on Setting and Sheeting of Headsails and the legal use of whisker poles spinnaker poles etc. For 2019 a clarification has been made to 1005 f.
The intent of ORR Rule 1005 f is to not allow spars or outriggers to be used in this way. Whisker poles are used for non-spinnaker class racing and short-handed cruising or whenever downwind performance is desired without the use of conventional spinnakers. A properly sized and deployed whisker pole will allow the headsail to add considerable power and speed to downwind sailing.
Telescoping whisker poles allow one pole to be used. The basic difference between a whisker pole and a spinnaker pole is that the whisker pole can only work in compression. For poling out sails however a whisker pole is all you need as it is always trying to be compressed.
Forespar make a range of aluminium whisker poles. I chose a 2 dia. Version in three parts with a total extended length of.